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Before I ask another JLR dealer . . how do you know I am qualified for a powertrain update?
Yours is older by 3 months which means it has the older software just like mine.

When I got the update, the throttle response was immediate.
 

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Thanks so much for posting this 4sallypat!! I would've had no idea these updates existed

I just picked up my 2016 DS with all the recall work done. A couple of highlights:

Transmission is much much smoother. AND my biggest issue was that when slowing prior to a 90 degree turn and then accelerating again, the engine would be terribly unresponsive. This is gone, it works great now. If you haven't gotten this upgrade, take your car in now.

The radio presets can be toggled through using the steering wheel! Little victory, but great quality of life improvement.

Infotainment significantly faster response.

I've always loved my DS, but these updates make me very happy!

Cheers!
 

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OMG - not another post about Infotainment presets?!?! There seems to be huge inconsistencies over what we are seeing. I had mine in for service about 3 weeks ago, which included updates - and I can not scan/toggle through presets :( Has there been a more recent Infotainment update???
 

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Thanks so much for posting this 4sallypat!! I would've had no idea these updates existed

I just picked up my 2016 DS with all the recall work done. A couple of highlights:

Transmission is much much smoother. AND my biggest issue was that when slowing prior to a 90 degree turn and then accelerating again, the engine would be terribly unresponsive. This is gone, it works great now. If you haven't gotten this upgrade, take your car in now.

The radio presets can be toggled through using the steering wheel! Little victory, but great quality of life improvement.

Infotainment significantly faster response.

I've always loved my DS, but these updates make me very happy!

Cheers!
As Larry said - big interest here on the steering wheel preset toggle!

Do you have the base audio system or do you have the audio upgrade (Meridian)?
 

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I have the upgraded audio option ($800) which allows steering wheel scrolling using the left/right arrows for XM satellite, FM, AM, USB sources.
- upgraded means:
- not the base
- not the pricey Meridian.

Guess it's the inbetween sound system ???
 

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The in-between system is Meridian branded here in Canada. It's a $375 option and has 11 speakers (base system has 10). The more expensive 17 speaker Meridian option ($2,900) is bundled with InControl Touch Pro Navigation and Services.

So, at least here in Canada, it seems that any audio upgrade involves Meridian.
 

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I have the mid-range Infotainment, which I believe is Meridian as well (but not the high dollar unit). I do not have the ability to scan/toggle through presets.

I mentioned before (I think in this thread - but they all start to blend) that I had an Evoque loaner (not sure which trim, but was not high level trim). That had a Meridian radio, but not satellite, and I could scan/toggle through the presets on the Evoque... Not sure how that helps anyone here, but it was fun to type :)
 

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OMG - not another post about Infotainment presets?!?! There seems to be huge inconsistencies over what we are seeing. I had mine in for service about 3 weeks ago, which included updates - and I can not scan/toggle through presets
Has there been a more recent Infotainment update???
I got the 3.0 version installed.

My sound system is the "audio upgrade". Meridian wasn't an option when I was buying. I believe the two meridian options are all that are available now...the weird upgrade they offered initially seems to be gone per the builder tool on the website and must have been replaced by the lower tier meridian.

Did you check the audio settings? I think i saw a checkbox for something that might allow you to toggle between scrolling presets and stations. Not sure though...
 

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Hi,
I went into the dealership with my '16 DS (7 Month on the road, 5000 miles ) with check engine light on and needing all the recalls listed in this thread. The DS is in the shop since Sat. (5 days already) and no solution in sight - they claim they did all the software updates and half way into one of the recalls the DS computer died on them leaving the whole car system down with no way to recover or even turn on the car - Now they are waiting on the guys from the UK to provide them with a software patch to recover it - very disappointing experience - I thought that after many years Landrover will figure things out and do better than 10 years ago with the car systems :( .
Although I enjoy driving a loaner Evoque it is time for me to get my Disco back.
Did anyone face similar issue/problems during service/ recalls?
 

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Mine was in the service dept for 2 days for the list of updates as well as my complaint items and the Evoque loaner was nice to try a different car out.

Then it was in the shop for another 2 weeks while they repaired an accident it had - the porter drove it into an overhang. The repairs were amazing - could not tell it had an accident - the service dept used an authorized JLR body shop and it showed.

These things happen and in the last 30+ years of driving different cars, it's bound to encounter bad luck...

Discosal, I wouldn't worry about the DS getting fixed eventually. Just be patient and thank them for at least giving you a loaner not paid out of your pocket like some other brands....

I was worried about reliability with the brand as it is the first time I ventured off the BMW path into the Land Rover brand. But now that I have it, I am quite pleased and the DS drive makes me smile every time I drive her. My service and sales dealer is just awesome and they really care unlike the horror stories I have heard from other JLR dealers.

I would return to the brand for sure!
 

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Just to close the loop on my experience, after a week in the dealer and also after replacing the battery module as it failed the whole car during the software upgrades the DS is now working like a charm, it seems like the multiple software upgrades did it all and now the DS is accelerating nicely with no lags or cuts and also in turns the engine is responsive as expected!
One thing that left unanswered to me (after chatting in length with the service agent at the dealership) - I drove a loaner Evoque for a week - and they are all claiming that it has the exact same engine+components under the hood + transmissions etc. so why the DS does not feel exactly like the Evoque - I'm referring to the engine behaviour, responsiveness etc. - The agent did acknowledge that difference and also pointed out that he had many similar conversations with other DS owners but he does not have a good answer/explanation for that. One thing I could think about is the weight of the car - the DS weight more than the Evoque - I wonder what else can influence the driving feeling if all mechanical parts are exactly the same....
I found on the web also the following comparison notes:
On the road, the Evoque stands out by feeling nimbler, quicker and more tossable than its Discovery Sports stablemate. In fact, the Evoque almost feels like a sporty hatchback with some extra ground clearance, as its turbocharged engine provides more than enough power for virtually all situations, and its small sizing is good for zipping through traffic and fitting into tight parking spaces.
By comparison, the Discovery Sport feels more like a traditional SUV. Though it uses the same engine as the Evoque, the Discovery Sport's larger size and extra weight mean it isn't as spry off the line or as nimble through the corners. That isn't necessarily a bad thing since it's not exactly slow to accelerate or sloppy when turning -- but it doesn't have the performance-SUV feel that you get from the Evoque.
 

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Just to close the loop on my experience, after a week in the dealer and also after replacing the battery module as it failed the whole car during the software upgrades the DS is now working like a charm, it seems like the multiple software upgrades did it all and now the DS is accelerating nicely with no lags or cuts and also in turns the engine is responsive as expected!
One thing that left unanswered to me (after chatting in length with the service agent at the dealership) - I drove a loaner Evoque for a week - and they are all claiming that it has the exact same engine+components under the hood + transmissions etc. so why the DS does not feel exactly like the Evoque - I'm referring to the engine behaviour, responsiveness etc. - The agent did acknowledge that difference and also pointed out that he had many similar conversations with other DS owners but he does not have a good answer/explanation for that. One thing I could think about is the weight of the car - the DS weight more than the Evoque - I wonder what else can influence the driving feeling if all mechanical parts are exactly the same....
I found on the web also the following comparison notes:
On the road, the Evoque stands out by feeling nimbler, quicker and more tossable than its Discovery Sports stablemate. In fact, the Evoque almost feels like a sporty hatchback with some extra ground clearance, as its turbocharged engine provides more than enough power for virtually all situations, and its small sizing is good for zipping through traffic and fitting into tight parking spaces.
By comparison, the Discovery Sport feels more like a traditional SUV. Though it uses the same engine as the Evoque, the Discovery Sport's larger size and extra weight mean it isn't as spry off the line or as nimble through the corners. That isn't necessarily a bad thing since it's not exactly slow to accelerate or sloppy when turning -- but it doesn't have the performance-SUV feel that you get from the Evoque.
The biggest reason for the difference between the Evoque and Discovery is that the software map is different due to towing.

Towing ability on the Discovery is huge compared to the Evoque. Think of the Evoque as a passenger sports car while the Discovery is a SUV sports car....

It's no wonder I see Discovery sports on the road towing small to medium boat trailers but never see an Evoque towing anything more than a jet ski.

That's why the Evoque feels different than the Discovery even with the same engine & chassis.
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Wow! Brought my DS in this week for recalls/enhancements. Performed nine different recalls including the ECU engine tune update. I feel like I'm driving a different car now! Engine performance greatly improved with this update. Having to relearn how to drive the car with a much more responsive accelerator now.

Incidentally, included in the recalls was replacement of the sunglass holder above the dash. Mine frequently would not latch close and would pop open all the time. Apparently the problem is widespread enough that there is now a formal recall to address.
 

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Glad to hear that JLR has taken care of these common issues at no cost!

It's refreshing to know that a manufacturer now cares enough about their customer to address them without hassles.

I remember a decade ago, Land Rover would never take care of such "trivial" complaints - they had an old stuffy attitude and would not provide customer service, much less for free.

Now, I see JLR joining the ranks of BMW, Merc, Audi when customers complain - they now listen, show genuine concern, and addresses them!

What a wonderful time to be part of this niche automotive brand!
 
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