[Hennec]

I've had my 2016 Disco Sport HSE for about 2 weeks now. Just got the factory rails and crossbars installed today and plan to to have my first session with the new ride this week. Does anyone know if the car can be locked if the key is left inside? I've researched online and can't find any decent solutions for leaving the key behind without letting anyone just walk up and unlock the car bc it's in the vacinity for the keyless lock/unlock system to activate. I've seen suggestions for lock box or putting it in a box in trunk where it won't trigger the system. Key is too big to carry in my wetsuit and I'm assuming it's not waterproof. Would prefer to leave the keyfob behind and take the removable keyblade with me even though it's a pain in the ass to have to pop the key cover off the door to unlock. Any LR owners out there with better surfing solutions? I asked my sales guy at the dealer and he had no clue.

 

[DrJJC]

I actually got the non-touch entry for that purpose. Do you have a hitch? If so, try a hitch safe lined with tin foil.

What rack did you get for the rails?

I purchased the LR Acqua Carrier, but it can't carry a board. I ended up getting the Thule SUP/surfboard carrier aka "SUP TAXI" It is really nice!

 

[Hennec]

I don't have a hitch, but will consider getting one if lining a hitch safe with foil works. Is that what you do? And it doesn't activate the keyless entry?

I've got factory rails and bars, all I use is a pair Dakine crossbar pads and bungie the boards to the rack. Thinking about getting a Thule snowboard rack for the winter though.

 

[LRDSnTexas]

Car won't lock with key inside. Trailer hitch vault your best bet. You can also buy a keyfob Faraday cage bag - lots to choose from on Amazon, probably better than tin foil...

 

[DrJJC]

I agree the bags are better. I did not get touch entry so it is not an issue for me.

Are you able to disable touch entry from the menu in the car? I believe I saw that as an option on an Evoque Loaner I drove.

 

[Hennec]

I don't believe the touch entry can be turned off. I've searched the manual and experimented with the car menu. Sounds like a hitch safe is the way to go. Dealer is quoting me $787 + $256 labor for the factory hitch, but noticed a lot of people on these forums are going with the Curt hitch. Any advice/advantages of factory over Curt? Would really only be getting it so i can attach hitch safe to hold key while surfing.

 

[DrJJC]

I got the factory. The hitch safe will not work with a factory hitch reciever as it is metric sized. But the install for the reciever is much nicer with the factory hitch. I use mine with a Thule bike rack. Thule products are universal (metric/us)

Instead of getting a hitch maybe just below...

This may be a solution: http://www.kidde.com/home-safety/en...y/residential-key-security/key-boxes/-001324/

Or: REALTOR KEY LOCK BOX Safe Vault With Combination 4 Pin Lock - Portable Realtor Outdoor Master Store keys 321 Locks© - Door Handle or Chain Link Fence Mount - Heavy Duty Slimline Storage https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018Y8YJFQ/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_ZHWsxbV82SV5T

 

[Hennec]

Thanks for the suggestions drjjc. I'm leaning towards the lockbox now since it's the least expensive and good short term fix for getting in the water. Still considering installing aftermarket hitch and hitch safe later but I read some Amazon reviews for the HS7000 key vault and it sounds like it's pretty easy to break into it. Anyone have experience with that specific model?

http://www.amazon.com/HitchSafe-HS7000T-HS7000-Key-Vault/dp/B000I66JEM

 

[DrJJC]

I have that model and used it on my Jeep all over. No issues and pretty sturdy. It has a cover that goes on it and makes it less noticable that it is a hitch safe at all. I even used it at amusement parks so I did not have to carry my keys.

 

[DiscoDisco]

I have touch entry. I've managed to lock my fob in the DS. I locked the vehicle, then returned and opened the rear door without unlocking the DS first. I just pressed the button on the rear door and it opened without unlocking. I threw my gym bag in the back, forgetting that I put my key fob in my bag side pocket, then closed the rear hatch.

I walked over to the driver door and POOF, I was locked out. I could not re-open the rear hatch after the key fob was inside. So yes you can lock your fob in the DS.

 

[DiscoDisco]

Obviously, that was an accident and I've never tried to replicate it but I just went out and tried it again. You lock the doors, then go to the rear hatch, then press the button on the door and it opens. Seems the rear door is touch entry as well. BUT the rest of the doors do not unlock. Then I put the fob inside and closed the door. Sure enough, it's stays locked and since the fob is inside the vehicle it will not unlock again until you get the other fob...or use the manual key I guess....never tried that.

 

[Hennec]

@DiscoDisco - Thanks for the intel. So I just tried experimenting with this scenario and wasn't able to replicate. You're right that opening the rear hatch with button press does NOT unlock the other doors nor (I'm assuming) turn off the alarm. But when I placed my key fob in the trunk and proceeded to close the hatch with the button, car honked at me twice and wouldn't close. I then tried closing the hatch manually. Once it closed the car honked twice again - I'm guessing to indicate that the FOB was still in the car. Side doors remained locked, but I was able to open the hatch by pressing the button since the FOB was still in the trunk. Not sure how your hatch remained locked? Was your FOB placed in a foil-lined bag or Faraday pouch? Please advise...if I can get this method to work, then I'll just get the key blade copied so I can take that with me in the water.

But then there's the other problem of having to deal with the alarm when I use the blade to open the door manually by removing the handle cover. I read in the manual that the car alarm goes off whenever you use the spare key blade to open the door manually and you have to place the FOB in a slot under the steering wheel to deactivate the alarm. Haven't experimented with that yet though.

 

[DiscoDisco]

Maybe mine has a glitch cause I thought it was rather strange that this could happen. No faraday bag, just tossed my keys in the back and closed the rear door.

 

[DrJJC]

FYI: THULE SUP TAXI on LR factory crossbars

 

[LRDSnTexas]

Novel way to lock yourself out of the car!

I bet that was fun! Interesting way to do it too. Makes a sort of stupid sense even. You couldn't reopen the rear hatch? Had the keyfob gotten too far from the hatch when you threw in the bag?

:laugh:

 

[LRDSnTexas]

Sorry I now see your response to Hennec - I've had the same experience he's had. Gives me the old double honk too when I do that too. Maybe your keys got too far inside the vehicle for the rear hatch to read them or more gremlins?

 

[djvfx]

Any new key solutions?

Hey, I just got my '17 DS and really like the car, but just discovered the problem for locking the car while I surf. found this dead thread and thought I'd inquire....

My sales person suggested I pop off the trim piece every time I go surf, and use the emergency key to enter. This seems ridiculous to me since I sometimes go several times every week.

Anyone have any new solutions or a system that works well for them?

Thanks!

 

[CYQX Discovery]

I have a 2016 and this is what I do , put the keys in the center console and lock the vehicle with the app, then when I come back I can unlock it with the app. Works for me every time but only if I lock it with the app. If I lose my phone I'm hooped but I suppose it's no different than losing the keys.

 

[dinkeldorf]

Brilliant. Just curious, is leaving the keys behind but taking the phone to save weight? New Disco has the light weight fob.

 

[CYQX Discovery]

Brilliant. Just curious, is leaving the keys behind but taking the phone to save weight? New Disco has the light weight fob.

Nope, my phone is waterproof, key fob isn't. If the phone gets wet I can borrow a phone and get another family member to unlock the vehicle remotely, if the key fob gets wet I'm stranded until someone can bring me the other key fob...