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Has anybody tried to use the map update website on page 161 of the manual (U.S. version)? When you connect to the link in the manual, an installer app downloads and installs the Land Rover Incontrol Touch Map Updater. I ran it and it asked me to insert my maps SD card, which I did (I'm doing this on a laptop, if that's not clear). It recognized the card but every time I click Next I get a connection error and it tells me to check my internet connection (which is fine). Anybody get further than this error? Does it update the maps on the SD card at no charge? Thanks.
 

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Sorry my man, I have not got to this yet. I'll give it a try this weekend and see what happens.
 

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Sorry my man, I have not got to this yet. I'll give it a try this weekend and see what happens.
I thought I fried my SD card! I took it out of the laptop even though the Land Rover icon was still spinning and put it in the car. It took a long time for navigation to re-initialize, but it worked. I left it in all last night and even though the app was still spinning this morning, nothing happened. I got no changes on the SD card and no errors from the app. One would think based on the manual that this is how one updates maps for free, but it sure didn't work for me. The dealer said their tech guy says you have to bring the SD card in for an update (which at one point he said cost $250). I usually use Google maps for nav, but the nav on the car is pretty nice and let's you seek upcoming restaurants and other POIs, so I might not burden my phone with music and nav at the same time, which sometimes overheats it and causes a crash anyway. Thx
 

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I asked service about this today. They said I can't update maps without authorization from Land Rover. I specifically asked why there is a reference to map update app in the manual, but that's the only reply I got. LR gave me the run-around when I contact customer support by email. Seems ridiculous to include a link to an app to update the SD card when it doesn't work. Oh well, I'll try again in the future, when maybe it might be time for an update to see what happens.
 

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The technology package has created a serious case of buyer's remorse and i haven't made the first payment. The Navigation system doesn't even rank as sub-par. I wouldn't recommend using the Map Updater. It has no user functionality, and the navigation system would not re-initiate when the SD card was re-installed in the vehicle. I guess i'm lucky this 2016 Land Rover Discovery Sport rattles like my 50' Chevy truck, at least that keeps my mind of the seriously inadequate navigation system.
 

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The technology package has created a serious case of buyer's remorse and i haven't made the first payment. The Navigation system doesn't even rank as sub-par. I wouldn't recommend using the Map Updater. It has no user functionality, and the navigation system would not re-initiate when the SD card was re-installed in the vehicle. I guess i'm lucky this 2016 Land Rover Discovery Sport rattles like my 50' Chevy truck, at least that keeps my mind of the seriously inadequate navigation system.
What aspects of the system don't you like? To me it seems like a pretty standard car Nav system, but I don't use Nav a ton in general so could be missing something.
 

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What aspects of the system don't you like? To me it seems like a pretty standard car Nav system, but I don't use Nav a ton in general so could be missing something.
Must be a troll....

I love the navigation system. Much improved over the Honda and BMW that I have been driving.
Much more accurate GPS positioning - probably due to the off road demands.

The instrument cluster LCD display is very cool in that it tells you an upcoming turn or lane to stay in.

Didn't have that in my other cars....

As for updates, wouldn't LR service take care of that during a routine maintenance ?
I know BMW does under their maintenance program...
 

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This Nav is way better than anything I've had in the past. Better than the Nav in my 15 RAM. Better than the Nav in my 13 F150.

However, I believe there is an sdd update from your dealership. I'm trying to confirm.
 

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This Nav is way better than anything I've had in the past. Better than the Nav in my 15 RAM. Better than the Nav in my 13 F150.

However, I believe there is an sdd update from your dealership. I'm trying to confirm.
Every couple of weeks or so I stick the Nav SD card into my laptop and run the LR map update software (link is in the manual). There was an update to the SOFTWARE the other day, but not to the maps. Now instead of it spinning and doing nothing, icons appear indicating "free updates" (or something like that) below the icon. So far, no free updates have appeared. I saw a Garmin at Costco the other day for $229 that includes lifetime maps and traffic. It's amazing anyone ever pays to put GPS in the car because it's so much more expensive and car dealers always charge for updates. When we had our old Land Cruiser, I quit updated the DVD Nav system and used the small Garmin we already own or else Google Maps on my phone. I'll keep trying with the SD Card in my laptop to see if anything ever comes up. It looks like their might be free updates available at some point event though I have seen links where it indicates you have to buy an update.
 

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What aspects of the system don't you like? To me it seems like a pretty standard car Nav system, but I don't use Nav a ton in general so could be missing something.
Must be a troll....

I love the navigation system. Much improved over the Honda and BMW that I have been driving.
Much more accurate GPS positioning - probably due to the off road demands.

The instrument cluster LCD display is very cool in that it tells you an upcoming turn or lane to stay in.

Didn't have that in my other cars....

As for updates, wouldn't LR service take care of that during a routine maintenance ?
I know BMW does under their maintenance program...
Hah yeah, I probably shouldn't feed the trolls

I actually played around with the Nav a bunch on my way home last night and really liked it. Very nice looking, great features and traffic notifications. Agree with the updates on the instrument cluster being nice

My sales guy was pretty sure that updates would be done with future service appointments. However he admitted it was a new system and that LR sometimes doesn't let their sales staff in on all the details. Hah
 

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We have found the Nav in the DS to be really good so far, including the voice commands. We came from a '14 Sequioa and the Nav in that was pretty much useless. On our summer road trip to LA, the Nav in the Sequioa wanted us to take random exits off the freeway, drive around the on and off ramps, only to continue down the freeway - it did that three times during our road trip.
 

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Someone (??) should probably start an official Nav System thread. Good, bad, how to use, updates, etc. Until then though...
I guess I've mixed opinions to this point. There are some cool features:


During guidance, it displayed the highway directional signs (you know the green ones) and used graying out as a visual of which lanes/exit to use. Pretty cool. Not sure of these visuals are part of the nav data or captured by the cameras? I'm thinkin it's the latter. If so, very cool. Or maybe I'm just too much of a tech head. :)


On the negative side:
The map scale doesn't seem to adjust automatically. For example, on the highway a map scale of 2-3 miles seems reasonable. Whereas on the side and back roads, 400-500 ft is best. At least I haven't found a way to make it do this. I've played with all the settings. My VW did this.
The "traffic" display... I *think* we see a red outline on the road when there is traffic or congestion. You really can't see this outline unless you are zoomed to .5 miles or less. Again, not much use when you're on the highway or a long trip and you want to see 5-10 miles ahead. I'm open to suggestions...
The "Avoid" option. Haven't figured how to use this thing. One, it's hard to find when you're driving and two, it's always grayed out. Again, open to suggestions and certainly, corrections...
 

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The map scale doesn't seem to adjust automatically.
I read a suggestion on another forum to turn off automatic scaling, set the scale you want, and then drive. When a turn is coming up, the system will give you the turn by turn directions, including the display in the dash. Haven't tried this yet. I do think it's a bit too zoomed in for general use.
 

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Thanks for sharing rcb. I did *discover* that other forum. Some good info being exchanged there as well. I guess they got a bit of a jump on those of us in the US having the car available sooner.


In the meantime, the nav system should be just as useful when it's not providing directions or guidance. Especially when it comes to traffic. It should be easy to see and avoid. The traffic visuals (red outlines) are nearly impossible to see unless you're at a zoom level where your already stuck in traffic. No green to indicate free flowing traffic. I find the textual traffic information not useful without the ability to see the corresponding information graphically on the display. VW was much better as was a Lexus I was in recently. The owners manual is silent on what the various nav settings actually do which I find annoying. Hopefully there are a few techs out there who know what auto zoom and speed and flow is supposed to actually do, not just where you find it in the menus.




Don't want to be seen as a Debbie Downer... I really like the car, quirks and all. I lease cars every 3 years or so, and typically new models too. Which means lots of quirks. I don't think I'm quite done complaining (or nitpicking) about features, functions and oversights yet, but I'll endeavor to experiment some more, maybe answer some of my own questions and maybe someone else's too! :)
 

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I understand. I really like the DS as well, quirks and all. It's not like I didn't have to get used to the strange system in my former Audi Q5. I bought my DS. There were really no lease deals, then. However, when it's time to trade it, I might lease and then keep getting new models of something every few years (although I probably drive more than the usual 10k mile allowance).
 

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Is there a compass on the nav map somewhere? I can't seem to find it...probably obvious
 

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Is there a compass on the nav map somewhere? I can't seem to find it...probably obvious
Not that I know of (or others that have looked). It's not in the mirror either. :-( I don't really use it much anyway, but it's in many high-end cars in the mirror so when I get in my wife's Q7 I notice it right away and realize again it's missing in the DS. However, as I said, it's not that big a deal to me, but I'm sure some miss it. I wonder if there's a setting in Nav to always show north? I don't think so, but many systems have that option. Then maybe you could figure out the compass direction based on the Nav screen?
 

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I was trying to find a setting that would make it so that the screen wouldn't automatically re-orient when the car changes directions. Didn't seem like there is an option for this. I like having the compass in areas in not familiar with, but around home it's not a big deal. Seems like it would be an easy software fix to add something
 

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Not that I know of (or others that have looked). It's not in the mirror either. :-( I don't really use it much anyway, but it's in many high-end cars in the mirror so when I get in my wife's Q7 I notice it right away and realize again it's missing in the DS. However, as I said, it's not that big a deal to me, but I'm sure some miss it. I wonder if there's a setting in Nav to always show north? I don't think so, but many systems have that option. Then maybe you could figure out the compass direction based on the Nav screen?
You know after driving BMWs for the past 15 years with the compass heading built into the rear view mirror, I missed it for a split second on the DS, but I don't really miss it much.

The DS navigation is so much better than the BMW nav - the maps spins and swivels in the direction you are heading and the North symbol shows the northerly direction...
 
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