HSE vs HSE Lux - 2016 what are the differences ?

olezay

· #2 · Oct 21, 2015 (Edited)

4sallypat said:
Newcomer to the board, old timer from Bimmerfest.

Questions:
1. Why do I not see any HSE Lux 2016 MY Discovery Sports on the dealer lots ?
I saw a 2015 Lux version in the showroom but could not tell any difference between it and a moderately loaded 2016 HSE.

2. What are the nice upgrades between the HSE to HSE Lux ?

3. Is it worth the difference in cost to upgrade?

4. How long will it be to wait for an HSE Lux ?

thanks!

Welcome! Are you in the US? If you are, I will be glad to pitch in my two cents.

If you are in other markets, then the specs are different than the US models and my input may be irrelevant.

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Discussion Starter · #3 · Oct 21, 2015

olezay said:
Welcome! Are you in the US? If you are, I will be glad to pitch in my two cents.

If you are in other markets, then the specs are different than the US models and my input may be irrelevant.

Yes in the USA.
Southern California to be exact.

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4sallypat,

Here you go:

1. Why do I not see any HSE Lux 2016 MY Discovery Sports on the dealer lots ?
I saw a 2015 Lux version in the showroom but could not tell any difference between it and a moderately loaded 2016 HSE.

In Bay Area, there are already many MY2016 DS in dealers' lots: Find a Land Rover/Range Rover Retailer | Land Rover USA
From the outside, 2016 and 2015 are exactly the same. The only differences are that for 2016, all SE/HSE/HSE Lux models have InControl Protect and Remote standard, that's why the base price for all 3 models has increased by about 400. Lux also has InControl Apps standard. Other than that, the only other change is that for 2016 HSE, the standard wheel becomes 18-inch (2015 has 19-inch).

2. What are the nice upgrades between the HSE to HSE Lux ?
Lux has these noticeable additions:
Land Rover Audio System - 11 Speakers
Windsor leather seats
Configurable Mood Lighting
Front and Rear Premium Carpet Mats
SiriusXM® Satellite Radio & HD Radio
Navigation System (SD Card)10
19-inch wheels
InControl Apps
There are other small stuff...

Other than these, most optional packages are available for both. You can find out more by downloading the PDF version of the brochure.

3. Is it worth the difference in cost to upgrade?
For me, I don't need most of these additions, so the extra cost is not worth it. You need to make the decision yourself.

4. How long will it be to wait for an HSE Lux ?
The wait time for Lux should be similar to HSE. I originally ordered a 2016 HSE in early July which was scheduled to be delivered sometimes in late November/early December, but I happened to find one 2015 in one of the local dealers and I could not wait any longer, so I bit the bullet and took that stocked DS instead even though dealers always add many useless options on the stocked units. So I would say the wait time is pretty long.

Hope this helps.

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olezay

· #5 · Oct 21, 2015

Oh I forgot to mention, for those dealers' MY2016/2015 in-stock units, most of them are 5-seat configuration. It is extremely hard to get a 5+2 7-seat unit. People try to grab them as soon as they come in. If you go to the link I sent you earlier, you can play with each dealer's inventory, copy the VIN, enter the VIN into VIN decoder is the best online tool to check vin number | VinDecoderz.com, and you will see probably less than 10% is 7-seat.

When I saw that 7-seat HSE came in the first week, I told my dealer I wanted it.

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Discussion Starter · #6 · Oct 21, 2015

olezay said:
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Hope this helps.

Awesome olezay!

Yes, that helped tremendously!

Now I get a better picture of the 2015 vs 2016 as well as the HSE & Lux differences.

Thank you because my head was spinning trying to look at both 2015 and 2016 Discovery Sports in both trim levels (2x2 options)...

Coming from BMW, I have a better handle on the Land Rover series.

I am looking at 2 cars right now -

A 2015 fairly well loaded HSE Lux with 20 wheels:
New 2015 Land Rover Discovery Sport For Sale | Redondo Beach CA

And then I am also looking at a 2016 HSE that has almost all the options I am looking for but with the smaller 18" wheels:
http://www.landrovercerritos.com/new/Land+Rover/2016-Land+Rover-Discovery+Sport-cerritos-anaheim-6f81c0b00a0e0ae8283649a0857f72a4.htm

The dealer for the 2015 isn't budging much even though it's a year older model. The dealer for the 2016 is already handing out a $2000 discount on a just arrived model.

Test driving the 2016 today and the 2015 on the weekend.
So I don't know which way to go yet....

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Discussion Starter · #7 · Oct 21, 2015

olezay said:
Oh I forgot to mention, for those dealers' MY2016/2015 in-stock units, most of them are 5-seat configuration. It is extremely hard to get a 5+2 7-seat unit. People try to grab them as soon as they come in. If you go to the link I sent you earlier, you can play with each dealer's inventory, copy the VIN, enter the VIN into VIN decoder is the best online tool to check vin number | VinDecoderz.com, and you will see probably less than 10% is 7-seat.

When I saw that 7-seat HSE came in the first week, I told my dealer I wanted it.

Funny - just what I was looking for - 5+2 - there are lots here in Southern California. Guess the Bay Area are more in demand for 5+2 cars ?

Most LA and OC dealers have a couple of the 5+2 seat optioned on the lot.

The most selection of 3 row seating is at San Diego Land Rover - they have about 18 DS on hand!

I am getting the 5+2 to replace out my Honda Pilot which is the family vehicle but I mistakenly got the 2WD version which is a pain when I go skiing.

Once I get the DS, I will have 2 AWD ski ready cars - the BMW being the 5 passenger seating and the DS with 5+2.

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olezay

· #8 · Oct 21, 2015 (Edited)

4sallypat said:
Awesome olezay!

Yes, that helped tremendously!

Now I get a better picture of the 2015 vs 2016 as well as the HSE & Lux differences.

Thank you because my head was spinning trying to look at both 2015 and 2016 Discovery Sports in both trim levels (2x2 options)...

Coming from BMW, I have a better handle on the Land Rover series.

I am looking at 2 cars right now -

A 2015 fairly well loaded HSE Lux with 20 wheels:
New 2015 Land Rover Discovery Sport For Sale | Redondo Beach CA

And then I am also looking at a 2016 HSE that has almost all the options I am looking for but with the smaller 18" wheels:
New 2016 Land Rover Discovery Sport For Sale | Cerritos CA | VIN: SALCR2BG3GH556431

The dealer for the 2015 isn't budging much even though it's a year older model. The dealer for the 2016 is already handing out a $2000 discount on a just arrived model.

Test driving the 2016 today and the 2015 on the weekend.
So I don't know which way to go yet....

$2000 discount for 2016? :crying: If it is a 5+2 and HSE, and if I were you, I would get it. Now I feel so sad that I paid too much...

For the 2015 Lux you looked at ($55,043), I configured it with the same options on Edmunds.com, the MSRP is $52,215. Is that dealer selling more than the MSRP? Same thing for the 2016 HSE, the MSRP should be $46,300. If I were you, I would double-check the window sticker and make sure that is the correct price. In Bay Area, the most dealers are asking is MSRP, which is inline with almost every online car site's configurator. I did get some discount due to the 2015 model.

Indeed, I am surprised that Southern CA has more 5+2 seaters. In the Bay Area, people almost fist fight for it (just kidding), I guess too many babies? too many relatives come from overseas to visit?

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Discussion Starter · #9 · Oct 22, 2015

I just test drove the 2016 HSE 5+2 3rd row + Driver Assist +, Climate Comfort + Audio upgrade.
Their web listing does not show all the options. The Monroney window sticker shows it all and confirmed $48,495.
Very nice dealership - met their GM and SM as well.

And yes, $2K off a 2016 that just arrived - this dealer is big chain franchise.
The only thing that bothered me was the 18" wheels. It made the car look smaller... Maybe it's an optical illusion like a mirage ???

As for the 2015 HSE Lux, not much bargaining probably due to the wealthy location they are in. I do like the 19" wheels. Will take a look this weekend and report back.

There is a third dealer in San Diego that seems to have more 5+2 inventory than anyone else.
I might have take a 2 hour drive if the San Diego store will match the discount locally...

Thanks for your input and tips !

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olezay

· #10 · Oct 22, 2015 (Edited)

4sallypat said:
I just test drove the 2016 HSE 5+2 3rd row + Driver Assist +, Climate Comfort + Audio upgrade.
Their web listing does not show all the options. The Monroney window sticker shows it all and confirmed $48,495.
Very nice dealership - met their GM and SM as well.

And yes, $2K off a 2016 that just arrived - this dealer is big chain franchise.
The only thing that bothered me was the 18" wheels. It made the car look smaller... Maybe it's an optical illusion like a mirage ???

As for the 2015 HSE Lux, not much bargaining probably due to the wealthy location they are in. I do like the 19" wheels. Will take a look this weekend and report back.

There is a third dealer in San Diego that seems to have more 5+2 inventory than anyone else.
I might have take a 2 hour drive if the San Diego store will match the discount locally...

Thanks for your input and tips !

You are correct! 18" wheels do make DS look smaller, and that was one of the reasons I decided to cancel my 2016 HSE order and took the 2015 HSE (with 19" wheels). It's all about the stance. DS looks very handsome with bigger tires. I personally can vouch for that!

It is good that you got the MSRP check out okay. It is very closed to my DS' MSRP, although the options are slightly different.

Good luck to you for the next test drive! Hopefully you will be able to make a clear decision after driving two different DS's.

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petcha

· #11 · Oct 22, 2015

When I ordered my 2016 DS, I went with the loaded HSE vs an HSE lux.

My sales guy priced the lux at about $2200 higher than the loaded HSE and and the only things that where added for lux were the ventilated windsor leather seats and the apps.

I could have added the apps to the HSE for a fee, but didn't see the utility. However the ventilated seats can't be added to an HSE, you have to get the lux if you want them, which include some unique leather colors like the saddle brown

Also couldn't get 20 inch rims on the HSE.

But yeah you're right, minor differences between a loaded HSE and lux for 2016

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Discussion Starter · #12 · Oct 22, 2015

petcha said:
When I ordered my 2016 DS, I went with the loaded HSE vs an HSE lux.

My sales guy priced the lux at about $2200 higher than the loaded HSE and and the only things that where added for lux were the ventilated windsor leather seats and the apps.

I could have added the apps to the HSE for a fee, but didn't see the utility. However the ventilated seats can't be added to an HSE, you have to get the lux if you want them, which include some unique leather colors like the saddle brown

Also couldn't get 20 inch rims on the HSE.

But yeah you're right, minor differences between a loaded HSE and lux for 2016

Yes the differences seem very slight when you add options to the HSE trim.

As for ventilated seats, I found the HSE with Climate Comfort package option gives you the nice cooling and heating of the front seats. Plus the rear seats can heat.

This option was an essential option I needed as I am getting older and need more comfy seats that "breathes" either cool air or heat....

So my 2016 HSE trim has to have: 3rd row seats, Climate Comfort, Driver Assistance Plus.

It would be nice to find a 19" wheeled HSE along with Adaptive Xenon lights.

The Adaptive Xenons are just like my BMW that swivels up/down and left/right during driving to allow you to see further ahead.

This rare HSE Aintree green for sale is perfect - I test drove that last month and has all the options and then some extras but is at the upper price range.

Loaded with 19", CC, AD+, 5+2 seating, Adaptive Xenon, Apps, Auto High beams, Audio upgrade & ventilated:
New 2016 Land Rover Discovery Sport For Sale | Anaheim Hills CA
New 2016 Land Rover Discovery Sport For Sale | Anaheim Hills CA

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· #13 · Oct 22, 2015

petcha said:
When I ordered my 2016 DS, I went with the loaded HSE vs an HSE lux.

My sales guy priced the lux at about $2200 higher than the loaded HSE and and the only things that where added for lux were the ventilated windsor leather seats and the apps.

I could have added the apps to the HSE for a fee, but didn't see the utility. However the ventilated seats can't be added to an HSE, you have to get the lux if you want them, which include some unique leather colors like the saddle brown

Also couldn't get 20 inch rims on the HSE.

But yeah you're right, minor differences between a loaded HSE and lux for 2016

My dealer only had two at the time I bought mine so I went with the HSE Lux since it was the color I wanted. I wasn't sure I'd like the ventilated seats, but I've used them a lot since it's hot here in NC. The Apps, which cost $400 or so, are really not worth it. I don't even use them any longer. Mine didn't have the Remote Protect with the Android phone app. I would have preferred that option. Now they seem to come with this by default (at least in the UK, or so I've read). I have 20" wheels with the black accent package (or whatever it's called). They still look a bit small because there is a gap between the tire and the fender. I think the DS looks somewhat small in some situations. I took some people from work for a ride the other day and one guy commented that it was very roomy inside for how small it looked outside. Depending upon which car you park next to, it looks bigger or smaller. I think it's an optical illusion. ;-)

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· #14 · Oct 23, 2015

4sallypat said:
Yes the differences seem very slight when you add options to the HSE trim.

As for ventilated seats, I found the HSE with Climate Comfort package option gives you the nice cooling and heating of the front seats. Plus the rear seats can heat.

This option was an essential option I needed as I am getting older and need more comfy seats that "breathes" either cool air or heat....

So my 2016 HSE trim has to have: 3rd row seats, Climate Comfort, Driver Assistance Plus.

It would be nice to find a 19" wheeled HSE along with Adaptive Xenon lights.

The Adaptive Xenons are just like my BMW that swivels up/down and left/right during driving to allow you to see further ahead.

This rare HSE Aintree green for sale is perfect - I test drove that last month and has all the options and then some extras but is at the upper price range.

Loaded with 19", CC, AD+, 5+2 seating, Adaptive Xenon, Apps, Auto High beams, Audio upgrade & ventilated:
New 2016 Land Rover Discovery Sport For Sale | Anaheim Hills CA
New 2016 Land Rover Discovery Sport For Sale | Anaheim Hills CA

Hah you're right. It reads "Climate front" seats. I got the climate package, so maybe I get heated/cooled seats then? For some reason I thought the cooled were lux only. Well that makes it even less of a reason to upgrade for the windsor leather. Also, now that I think about it, the tester I drove wasn't a lux and I'm pretty sure it chilled my butt down nicely.

I have adaptive xenons on my BMW as well and like them, so I did add that one on to my build.

Less than a month before my DS is supposed to be here. Ugh, the anticipation is killing me

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· #15 · Oct 23, 2015

Hmm weird. So, I just looked at my order sheet and I got the "cold climate package" for $1200. The one shown on the online builder is called "climate comfort package" and is $1600. So even though mine is a 2016, it has a different cold/climate package than what is currently offered? Seems odd, but then again based on my experience so far, I'm not surprised. Guess I'll find out soon enough

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Discussion Starter · #16 · Oct 23, 2015

petcha said:
Hmm weird. So, I just looked at my order sheet and I got the "cold climate package" for $1200. The one shown on the online builder is called "climate comfort package" and is $1600. So even though mine is a 2016, it has a different cold/climate package than what is currently offered? Seems odd, but then again based on my experience so far, I'm not surprised. Guess I'll find out soon enough

Which trim level did you order ?
Depending on the trim level, the cost to add an option changes as some of the features are already included at the trim level.

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Discussion Starter · #17 · Oct 23, 2015

petcha said:
Hah you're right. It reads "Climate front" seats. I got the climate package, so maybe I get heated/cooled seats then? For some reason I thought the cooled were lux only. Well that makes it even less of a reason to upgrade for the windsor leather. Also, now that I think about it, the tester I drove wasn't a lux and I'm pretty sure it chilled my butt down nicely.

I have adaptive xenons on my BMW as well and like them, so I did add that one on to my build.

Less than a month before my DS is supposed to be here. Ugh, the anticipation is killing me

+1 on the adaptive Xenons - I have had them on my past 3 BMWs.

So switching over to a non adaptive Xenon is going be an adjustment.

I'm picking up my DS off the lot tomorrow - wish me luck!!>

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